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It is now 51% chance on Betfair that Trump will not serve a full term as President pic.twitter.com/sjK2z3sp3F

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  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 20,150
    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,530
    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 7,736
    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    I was rather relieved by your explanation. I was wondering whether the 20-something Corbynista had been too energetic for you and something serious had happened!
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 13,450
    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Keep dreaming Surby. It will make the shock all the more extreme when it does actually happen.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,530
    edited August 1

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Keep dreaming Surby. It will make the shock all the more extreme when it does actually happen.
    Art, 127 plus Maltese PM on CNN shortly.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 20,150
    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 20,150
    ydoethur said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    I was rather relieved by your explanation. I was wondering whether the 20-something Corbynista had been too energetic for you and something serious had happened!
    I am still blissfully in love with my 20-something GF. She's not that Corbynite, as it turns out, just idealistic, in a hippychick way. She has mellowed me and told me that this shit does not matter.

    She's right. It's been an enormous relief to STOP CARING.

    I don't miss the political arguments, at all. I do miss the humour, diversion and bantz of PB at its best.

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,530
    ydoethur said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    I was rather relieved by your explanation. I was wondering whether the 20-something Corbynista had been too energetic for you and something serious had happened!
    Corbynista all over SeanT !
  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527
    SeanT said:

    ydoethur said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    I was rather relieved by your explanation. I was wondering whether the 20-something Corbynista had been too energetic for you and something serious had happened!
    I am still blissfully in love with my 20-something GF. She's not that Corbynite, as it turns out, just idealistic, in a hippychick way. She has mellowed me and told me that this shit does not matter.

    She's right. It's been an enormous relief to STOP CARING.

    I don't miss the political arguments, at all. I do miss the humour, diversion and bantz of PB at its best.

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 7,736
    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Keep dreaming Surby. It will make the shock all the more extreme when it does actually happen.
    Art, 127 plus Maltese PM on CNN shortly.
    Sorry, but on reading it it doesn't bear the interpretation being put on it. We are members of the EU and have expressed our intention to leave in writing to all other contracting parties. That's all that's needed. Arguably, the possible breach is we're giving more notice than required.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,180
    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    The Remainiacs have been on tip top form; they've all but taken cranial measurements to prove the mental and social deficiencies of Leavers. My favourite was them using a poll to prove how much they preferred bum sex to the average person.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 7,362
    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Did you enjoy the Mooch?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,364
    SeanT said:

    ydoethur said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    I was rather relieved by your explanation. I was wondering whether the 20-something Corbynista had been too energetic for you and something serious had happened!
    I am still blissfully in love with my 20-something GF. She's not that Corbynite, as it turns out, just idealistic, in a hippychick way. She has mellowed me and told me that this shit does not matter.

    She's right. It's been an enormous relief to STOP CARING.

    I don't miss the political arguments, at all. I do miss the humour, diversion and bantz of PB at its best.

    Some good stuff banterwise on this tweet thread:

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 16,204
    edited August 1
    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    TSE has raffled his foreskin to raise funds for remain

    thats about it
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,303
    Fentanyl deaths: Warning as drug kills 'at least 60'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40793887

    This is very worrying. Vox have a video about its impact in the us and just how dangerous it is. An absolute tiny amount can result in an overdose.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 22,106
    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Alastair Meeks gave you 2 weeks.

    You've been away just under 4 weeks.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 22,106
    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 22,106
    I have a feeling this Trump market is going to provide some good value for some time to come.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 4,996
    So why has no-one said "CROSSOVER!!!!!" yet?

    Not that I would do anything like that.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 7,016

    Fentanyl deaths: Warning as drug kills 'at least 60'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40793887

    This is very worrying. Vox have a video about its impact in the us and just how dangerous it is. An absolute tiny amount can result in an overdose.

    Meanwhile we've banned some far safer drugs. Maybe Professor Nutt was right that drugs policy should be based on harm rather than the prejudices of Labour Home Secretaries chasing headlines.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 7,362

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,364

    I have a feeling this Trump market is going to provide some good value for some time to come.

    Yeah, it is not worth betting much on this market. Trump could go tommorow or last 4 years, anything can happen there.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 41,948
    edited August 1

    I have a feeling this Trump market is going to provide some good value for some time to come.

    For sure :)

    But you shouldn't bet more than you can afford to lose, and right now I can't afford to lose anything :D
    Or indeed tie anything up :o
    But ye Trump to stay is good value I think.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,530
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40794620

    The real economy is different from the stock markets.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,303

    Fentanyl deaths: Warning as drug kills 'at least 60'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40793887

    This is very worrying. Vox have a video about its impact in the us and just how dangerous it is. An absolute tiny amount can result in an overdose.

    Meanwhile we've banned some far safer drugs. Maybe Professor Nutt was right that drugs policy should be based on harm rather than the prejudices of Labour Home Secretaries chasing headlines.
    I met him and spoken to him about this. Postman pats decision to sack him was bloody idiotic.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 8,523
    surbiton said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40794620

    The real economy is different from the stock markets.

    I'd hate to see the German car figures in a years time....
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 8,523
    Pulpstar said:

    I have a feeling this Trump market is going to provide some good value for some time to come.

    For sure :)

    But you shouldn't bet more than you can afford to lose, and right now I can't afford to lose anything :D
    Or indeed tie anything up :o
    But ye Trump to stay is good value I think.
    tyson would have a fit reading that post! ;)
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 179
    51% still seems rather high. Given they've put up with everything that's happened so far just what would it take for the GOP in Congress to turn against Trump?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 2,049
    surbiton said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40794620

    The real economy is different from the stock markets.

    Trump will no doubt be on Twitter tonight blaming the Fake News Media for those falling US car sales.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458
    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 16,204
    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 10,302

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
    Or Fatcha even!!!!!! :D
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458
    SeanT said:

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    We are fine. Cyclefree is going freelance. Richard_Tyndall had a rather nasty health scare but it wasn't what the doctors feared. Casino is going thru a bit of a bad patch and needs a hug. WilliamGlenn keeps the faith that Brexit will not happen. Sunil posted on another blog about Atlantis. I have two conferences coming up in the same week hundreds of miles apart and need a telepod.

    The conversation is mostly Brexit, Brexit, Brexit with occasional divergence to house prices and Trump. The best bits were Dunkirk, the new female Doctor Who and which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 2,049

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
    Here's hoping it doesn't last as long! :smile:
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 16,204

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
    Here's hoping it doesn't last as long! :smile:
    well certainly the whining
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 107

    Fentanyl deaths: Warning as drug kills 'at least 60'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40793887

    This is very worrying. Vox have a video about its impact in the us and just how dangerous it is. An absolute tiny amount can result in an overdose.

    Fentanyl, or a derivitive thereof, was one of the substances suspected to have been used by the Russians to incapacitate the Chechens in the Moscow theatre and Beslan school hostage crises. 15% lethality in those situations, apparently, which means a single unmoderated dose killed about one in every six users.

    If you are still thinking of taking some, remember it also causes dry mouth.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    edited August 1
    viewcode said:

    Sunil posted on another blog about Atlantis.

    The late great Klaus Schmidt reckoned Gobekli Tepe in Turkey dates from 9600 BC, the same year Atlantis was supposed to have been submerged.

    Back to the present, today I did the Spa Valley Railway straddling the Kent/Sussex border, my first bit of new track since I did Windermere on 16th June.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,530
    Mortimer said:

    surbiton said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40794620

    The real economy is different from the stock markets.

    I'd hate to see the German car figures in a years time....
    Let's talk about now. What would the UK car figures look like in a year's time ?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    The manifesto was written before WWI
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 2,049

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
    Here's hoping it doesn't last as long! :smile:
    well certainly the whining
    No need to worry, once it turns out to be the great success you expect it to be we Remainers will all conveniently forget we were against it.

    Of course, if you're wrong about its impact, you are never likely to hear the end of it!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
    Dream within a Dream
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 2,049
    edited August 1

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
    Dream within a Dream
    Roll Tide (Crimson Tide)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
    Dream within a Dream
    Roll Tide (Crimson Tide)
    Now We Are Free
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    fpt for Josias

    Title.

    So how are we all? Anything happened? Is it all endless Brexit?

    I am enjoying my apolitical new life, but I confess I do occasionally miss PB.

    Even you will have a sinking feeling now that Brexit after all will not happen.
    Jeez. You still arguing this? It will happen, but it will be very soft, at first. Something like EEA but with the figleaf of a different name. Get over it.
    Yep. Same old shit, day after day.
    Dig in. People will be complaining about Brexit for decades.
    Brexit is the new Thatcher
    Here's hoping it doesn't last as long! :smile:
    well certainly the whining
    No need to worry, once it turns out to be the great success you expect it to be we Remainers will all conveniently forget we were against it.

    Of course, if you're wrong about its impact, you are never likely to hear the end of it!
    Bloody REMOANERS, stealing our headbangery!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 19,125

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
    Dream within a Dream
    Roll Tide (Crimson Tide)
    Now We Are Free
    Hah! You cheated! Not from the "Inception" soundtrack! I win!

    [smug mode on]
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 4,458
    Sean_F said:

    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.

    But you are speaking of the survivors... :(
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 2,049
    Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.
    Yes, I am sure that's true. For many, war was no doubt a very exciting time. But which of us would trade our lives in peacetime Britain for a life in a war zone?
  • AllanAllan Posts: 262
    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    (11th July 2017 "Flights between the UK and the European Union will be cancelled for months after Brexit, unless replacements for EU airline agreements are struck before Britain leaves the bloc, Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary told the European Parliament yesterday.")
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 25,401
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    which Hans Zimmer soundtrack is the best.

    Inception.
    Good call. But The DaVinci Code has Chevaliers de Sangreal...
    Dream is Collapsing!
    Molossus
    Dream within a Dream
    Roll Tide (Crimson Tide)
    Now We Are Free
    Hah! You cheated! Not from the "Inception" soundtrack! I win!

    [smug mode on]
    No, you switched from Da Vince Code to Crimson Tide!

    BTW: 528491 :)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 15,478
    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    Perhaps they could invite BTL king Fergus Wilson? He's quoted as looking forward to a points based system to get better quality tenants.
  • BudGBudG Posts: 605
    On topic, as one or two said earlier, Trump may be a a good value bet to stay the distance.

    However, given the nature of the man and the shenanhigans we have seen so far, I can't help but think that at some point over the next two years we will see prices lower than the current 4.3 for 2018 and 6.4 for 2019 departure. So for me, the current value is betting on those two years as a trading opportunity
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 8,523
    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    (11th July 2017 "Flights between the UK and the European Union will be cancelled for months after Brexit, unless replacements for EU airline agreements are struck before Britain leaves the bloc, Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary told the European Parliament yesterday.")

    Bureaucratic fog in channel; Continent cut off!!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 19,125

    Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.
    Yes, I am sure that's true. For many, war was no doubt a very exciting time. But which of us would trade our lives in peacetime Britain for a life in a war zone?
    As the man said, it depends if you're winning. If you are, it's great.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,364

    Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.
    Yes, I am sure that's true. For many, war was no doubt a very exciting time. But which of us would trade our lives in peacetime Britain for a life in a war zone?
    A fair number of Brits did that to fight on one side or the other in Syria.

    Army recruitment tends to be harder when there are no wars to fight too.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 10,302
    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    (11th July 2017 "Flights between the UK and the European Union will be cancelled for months after Brexit, unless replacements for EU airline agreements are struck before Britain leaves the bloc, Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary told the European Parliament yesterday.")

    Watching now....
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 13,450

    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    Perhaps they could invite BTL king Fergus Wilson? He's quoted as looking forward to a points based system to get better quality tenants.
    Or perhaps they could invite Lord Bamford - chairman of one of the biggest companies in Britain and the third largest manufacturer of construction equipment in the world. Also as it happens someone who campaigned for us to leave the EU and who wants us to leave the Single Market
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 2,645

    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    Perhaps they could invite BTL king Fergus Wilson? He's quoted as looking forward to a points based system to get better quality tenants.
    Or perhaps they could invite Lord Bamford - chairman of one of the biggest companies in Britain and the third largest manufacturer of construction equipment in the world. Also as it happens someone who campaigned for us to leave the EU and who wants us to leave the Single Market
    Just seen your good news, Richard. Delighted for you. Do take care of yourself!!
  • Sean_F said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    "War educates the senses, calls into action the will, perfects the physical constitution, brings men into such swift and close collision in critical moments that man measures man."
    "We will glorify war—the world’s only hygiene—militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman." (Futurism manifesto, 1914)

    ...and then they had World War One. They weren't so stupid after that.
    Um, I think you forgot the sequel in 1939...
    You're missing the point Sunil - the Futurists would not have gloried war after WW1.

    Worth noting also that Emerson's paen to war was delivered before the horrors of the US civil war, and of course the before the two World Wars. He had never experienced war (nor even seen its effects on TV!). I very much doubt he'd have been so positive if he had seen the effects of industrialised war.
    Some people loved serving in WWI and WWII. If you've commanded a battalion at the age of 23, civilian life might feel very dull by comparison.
    Yes, I am sure that's true. For many, war was no doubt a very exciting time. But which of us would trade our lives in peacetime Britain for a life in a war zone?
    Also, keep in kind that not everyone ever was in battle..

    I saw one figure for American soldiers in World War Two that only a quarter ever experienced combat. For a lot of the rest, I bet it was a steady job after the Depression, as well as a chance to get out of Little Town, Iowa and see the world. In fact, I had two great-uncles actually on the front lines in France and Italy who said everything after the army did seem dull.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527
    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    As General Martok once said... "war is much more fun when you're winning" :D

    It worries me that I didn't have to look that up... :(

    He's on par with Sun Tzu ;)
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 17,821
    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.
  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 1,180

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
    It's to balance out all the pro-EU performers. ;)
  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 1,180
    RobD said:

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
    It's to balance out all the pro-EU performers. ;)
    It's a music festival.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527

    RobD said:

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
    It's to balance out all the pro-EU performers. ;)
    It's a music festival.

    Which side is that addressed to? :smiley:
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 17,821

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
    I would have hoped all Leavers would unequivocally condemn the idea of restricting people's freedom of expression. But sadly it comes as no surprise that the fragile flowers like Nigel Farage are all in favour of such a ban.
  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 1,180
    edited August 2
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU flag at the Proms now.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/the-proms-embroiled-in-brexit-row-as-concertgoers-eu-flags-are-banned-a3601136.html
    It's to balance out all the pro-EU performers. ;)
    It's a music festival.

    Which side is that addressed to? :smiley:
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I see that Leavers have now reached the point of complaining that news programmes interview businessmen with relevant observations to make because those relevant observations are difficult for them to process.

    They are getting more mental than that. You can't even have an EU f
    It's a music festival.

    Which side is that addressed to? :smiley:
    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527
    edited August 2



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 20,364
    RobD said:



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
    The Eurovision isn't exactly an EU body, mind
    It's headquartered in Switzerland, and has 56 members from all over the world
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 17,821
    RobD said:



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
    It's dimwitted enough to conflate the EU and the ECHR, but conflating "Europe" and "Eurovision" is next level headbangery.

    Oh, and Eurovision did a very rapid u turn on the Welsh flag when it was pointed out how daft it was being. Sadly, Leavers aren't quite so nimble.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527
    edited August 2
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
    The Eurovision isn't exactly an EU body, mind
    It's headquartered in Switzerland, and has 56 members from all over the world
    True, but it is a major music event like the Proms.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 30,527

    RobD said:



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
    It's dimwitted enough to conflate the EU and the ECHR, but conflating "Europe" and "Eurovision" is next level headbangery.

    Oh, and Eurovision did a very rapid u turn on the Welsh flag when it was pointed out how daft it was being. Sadly, Leavers aren't quite so nimble.

    I'm not sure that the leavers are in charge of the Proms.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 3,587

    Allan said:

    BBC Newsnight give up time to Michael O'Leary on Brexit. Any chance of balance?

    Perhaps they could invite BTL king Fergus Wilson? He's quoted as looking forward to a points based system to get better quality tenants.
    Or perhaps they could invite Lord Bamford - chairman of one of the biggest companies in Britain and the third largest manufacturer of construction equipment in the world. Also as it happens someone who campaigned for us to leave the EU and who wants us to leave the Single Market
    Because he's engaged in running an airline which runs services between the U.K. and Europe ?

    Is your attitude that the BBC not be able to report stories about potential problems which need to be sorted out prior to Brexit without inviting on a random cheerleader for 'balance' ?

    Or perhaps you know of an airline boss who would have been happy to go on and say that they are entirely unconcerned about this ?

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 3,587
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:



    The side that is undermining British tolerance by stopping people displaying flags.

    Europe has a similar attitude. See the Eurovision banning the Welsh flag, for example.
    The Eurovision isn't exactly an EU body, mind
    It's headquartered in Switzerland, and has 56 members from all over the world
    True, but it is a major music event like the Proms.
    So you're in favour of jobsworths if petty rules conform with you prejudices ?
    Both organisations were being risible.

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