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  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 3,937
    Different border.
  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?
  • twitter.com/rossco_1990/status/935251045533528073

    I hope nobody bumped into his trolley...or shouted some homophobic slur at somebody in his ear shot.

    We are going to need more than the ginger nut after that showing in the 1st Test. We need to have come up with a way to clone him like Dolly The Sheep and send out 11 out of them.

    Also, he won't have played any cricket for months now. How likely is he going to be in touch to face 3 bowlers sending them down at 90 mph.

    Yeah yeah, bowling machine, but it is totally different experience...at least thats my excuse when they swapped out the machine for Alex Tudor and he gave me a good working over.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 8,831
    FPT

    NickPalmer said:

    "I thought the Guardian used to just give royal news a few lines (unless it's Prince Charles dodging tax!).

    Yes, they've gone a bit soft. Report them to Momentum. :)"

    I realise that's a joke.

    But even you must feel a little uncomfortable with the reported stories about Momentum wanting to unleash "hate" against people, including - if the reports are to be believed - the PM's husband.

    We had quite enough of that with McBride planting poisonously untrue stories about political spouses. Why should lovely cuddly Jeremy's version of Labour get a free pass on this?

    If you've got good arguments, use them to win people to your cause. Unleashing hate - and there have been too many examples of Labour people saying hateful things (cough *anti-semitism* cough) is not something which a party which, in Thornberry's words, is "better than this" should be doing.
  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
  • Saw this tweet amidst the exchange between Stephen Bush and Tim Montgomerie:



    In my view the linked article is spot on. Says a few things that have been said on here as well.
  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 59,709
    edited November 27

    Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,253
    edited November 27

    Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    Sigh....

  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    Sigh....

  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    Sigh....

    I do wonder what the hell the plod are doing with the case. They wanted the two guys to come forward to find out more about what led to the incident, they did so weeks ago.
  • When was the last time Scottish Labour had a decent leader? Dugale didn’t seem to be rated by many, and neither did Jim Murphy.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749

    Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    5 -0 then ;-)
  • Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    Sigh....

    I do wonder what the hell the plod are doing with the case. They wanted the two guys to come forward to find out more about what led to the incident, they did so weeks ago.
    I suspect the police have done their bit and it is the CPS who are fannying around whilst coming up a charging decision.

    Now if I were making the charging decision it would have been made weeks ago, I suspect the person making the decision has no interest in cricket.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,253
    edited November 27
    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 15,056
    calum said:
    This is the Labour Party that thinks it would be better at negotiating Brexit?

    Okaaaaay.....
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 6,549

    When was the last time Scottish Labour had a decent leader? Dugale didn’t seem to be rated by many, and neither did Jim Murphy.

    I always thought Johann Lamont was rather good - and the two elections she was leader for, the 2012 local elections and the 2014 Euros, were actually rather good for SLAB's recent standards.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    edited November 27

    Oh, so its not a new thread discussing Ben Stokes going to Oz?

    Prince Harry is going to be so pissed off that he’s not the most important ginger in the papers tomorrow
    I am sure he will manage to get over it.
    Michael Vaughan says Ben Stokes is not on his way to Australia.

    Well it was fun whilst it lasted.
    Sigh....

    I do wonder what the hell the plod are doing with the case. They wanted the two guys to come forward to find out more about what led to the incident, they did so weeks ago.
    I suspect the police have done their bit and it is the CPS who are fannying around whilst coming up a charging decision.

    Now if I were making the charging decision it would have been made weeks ago, I suspect the person making the decision has no interest in cricket.
    Probably would have if he was the Aussie top player but this is jolly old England.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 6,549
    edited November 27

    calum said:
    This is the Labour Party that thinks it would be better at negotiating Brexit?

    Okaaaaay.....
    Erm, do you really think not getting the facts right about a water company, is as bad (or as consequential) as not getting the facts right about an imprisoned Briton and landing them a bigger jail sentence?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,328

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Merchant bank not approving a left wing PM?

    Now there's a surprise!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 20,314

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
  • Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Corbyn is merely a threat, and may not be that bad.

    Whereas Brexit is a reality, and it's shite.
  • So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

  • RecidivistRecidivist Posts: 1,157

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    So Brexit is a threat then, if an investment bank says so.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 59,709
    edited November 27
    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    Can you please keep on repeating that to your fellow Leavers.

    Some of them get tumescent over the prospect of a WTO Brexit.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    A Corbyn premiership would be nothing to do with Brexit but a signal of the British electorate's final weariness with austerity
  • rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,328

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    'The nationalisation of key industries, higher taxes and a shift in spending priorities towards low-income households under Corbyn’s leadership could damage valuations of UK companies, the US bank warned.'

    Morgan Stanley said "British utility companies, especially water and power companies, were most at risk from a Labour government, but also warned postal services, telecommunications and travel companies could be affected.
    Higher taxes and an increase in corporation tax to 26% might damage British financial services, Morgan Stanley warned.
    “Spending priorities... shift in favour of low-income households and the public sector and away from outsourcers and defence companies,” the report continued. “Higher low-end wage growth could also impact service-oriented companies with low margins, such as retailers.”
    It is certainly plausible that the Labour party could ultimately moderate some of its more radical policy ideas; the alternative could be the most significant political shift in the UK since the end of the 1970s.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank
  • The FBI received over 200,000 requests for background checks to own a gun on Black Friday, overtaking last year's single-day record by nearly 10%.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 33,339
    @Coral: So it turns out that Ben Stokes is actually flying to New Zealand, to 'practice'.

    Flying to the other side of the World, 20 hours closer to Australia. With your England kitbag. Some people would suggest there's more to this than they're letting on.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
    Do you really think the Leaver Tory membership will vote for former Remainer Hunt?

    The only way Hunt may get it is if he manages to get into the final two with Rudd selected by the MPs, though hard to see the Brexit hardliners on the backbenchers not wanting one of their own like Boris, JRM, Gove or even a more moderate Leaver like Davis in the final two.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 33,339
    @KatyFBrand: Prince Harry called to say that he was PROBABLY going to ask me to marry him, but I would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. I said probably is no good and took a pass. Thanks anyway!
  • Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
  • Scott_P said:

    @Coral: So it turns out that Ben Stokes is actually flying to New Zealand, to 'practice'.

    Flying to the other side of the World, 20 hours closer to Australia. With your England kitbag. Some people would suggest there's more to this than they're letting on.

    Lol...they could have at least said he was visiting family.
  • HYUFD said:

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
    Do you really think the Leaver Tory membership will vote for former Remainer Hunt?

    The only way Hunt may get it is if he manages to get into the final two with Rudd selected by the MPs, though hard to see the Brexit hardliners on the backbenchers not wanting one of their own like Boris, JRM, Gove or even a more moderate Leaver like Davis in the final two.
    Yes, they could vote for him.

    You've gone quiet on your ramping for Boris.
  • HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073

    HYUFD said:

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
    Do you really think the Leaver Tory membership will vote for former Remainer Hunt?

    The only way Hunt may get it is if he manages to get into the final two with Rudd selected by the MPs, though hard to see the Brexit hardliners on the backbenchers not wanting one of their own like Boris, JRM, Gove or even a more moderate Leaver like Davis in the final two.
    Yes, they could vote for him.

    You've gone quiet on your ramping for Boris.
    If it was Boris v Hunt sent to the membership Boris would win
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 15,056
    Danny565 said:

    calum said:
    This is the Labour Party that thinks it would be better at negotiating Brexit?

    Okaaaaay.....
    Erm, do you really think not getting the facts right about a water company, is as bad (or as consequential) as not getting the facts right about an imprisoned Briton and landing them a bigger jail sentence?
    Clearly hit a nerve, when you have to throw back Boris Johnson!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    Scott_P said:
    Not like a political union with the EU not to lose any sovereignty is it.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,328
    HYUFD said:

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
    Do you really think the Leaver Tory membership will vote for former Remainer Hunt?

    The only way Hunt may get it is if he manages to get into the final two with Rudd selected by the MPs, though hard to see the Brexit hardliners on the backbenchers not wanting one of their own like Boris, JRM, Gove or even a more moderate Leaver like Davis in the final two.
    You need to allow for context. If post Brexit, being a Remainer will not be a problem. If Pre Brexit, a leadership contest would be in the context of a disintegrating Brexit policy.

    I am no fan of Hunt, but he is a sly and mendacious man with Murdoch backing. Not to be underestimated.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,253
    edited November 27
    Perhaps somebody could buy Haseem Habeeb a plane ticket to NZ. I mean Ben could do with somebody to bowl at in the nets.
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    HYUFD said:

    So David Davis will be found in contempt of Parliament and Steve Baker misled Parliament.

    Senior Tories gonna be dropping like flies again?

    Leaving Hunt last man standing...
    Do you really think the Leaver Tory membership will vote for former Remainer Hunt?

    The only way Hunt may get it is if he manages to get into the final two with Rudd selected by the MPs, though hard to see the Brexit hardliners on the backbenchers not wanting one of their own like Boris, JRM, Gove or even a more moderate Leaver like Davis in the final two.
    You need to allow for context. If post Brexit, being a Remainer will not be a problem. If Pre Brexit, a leadership contest would be in the context of a disintegrating Brexit policy.

    I am no fan of Hunt, but he is a sly and mendacious man with Murdoch backing. Not to be underestimated.
    If post Brexit in 2021 (ie post Brexit and transition period) members will want someone to sell Brexit Britain like Boris if pre Brexit and the end of the transition period ie pre 2021 they will want someone who will stick to the Leaver line while already having experience of negotiating with the EU to continue FTA talks ie Davis.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 756

    Saw this tweet amidst the exchange between Stephen Bush and Tim Montgomerie:



    In my view the linked article is spot on. Says a few things that have been said on here as well.

    That's an interesting read, thanks for the link.

    I would disagree with the idea that the fact the Telegraph and Times have dumbed down over the years is a sign of the intellectual vacuity of the right - the Guardian is equally as full of clickbait articles and seems to enjoy stirring the pot. One might argue, despite being two stops short of Dagenham, more radical ideas are being put forward by The Canary.

    To suggest that two dead tree press newspapers, with dwindling circulations and hiding behind paywalls online, represent the vanguard of intellectual thought on the right is disingenuous at best.

    However I do agree that the Conservatives have become intellectually barren - with neo-liberalism falling out of fashion, Conservatives are retreating into a reactionary response to the culture wars rather than making a case for free markets, lower taxes, less regulation. Meanwhile they become more authoritarian and statist - May is a perfect example of that.

    Perhaps it is because neo-liberalism has been on life support since the credit crunch, perhaps it is because we have faced a lost decade of stagnant wages and declining living standards, but few are making the case for capitalism any more, on the left or the right. This despite the fact it delivered the longest, most sustained period of peace and prosperity in our history.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.
    No, Corbyn's appeal had nothing really to do with Brexit, he won students by opposing student fees and middle aged voters by opposing the dementia tax and public sector workers by opposing austerity and the public sector pay cap.

    On Brexit any Tory Remainers going to Labour were cancelled out by UKIP and Labour Leavers going to the Tories.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 17,768
    Jeremy Corbyn is looking for red setters. The present government offer fox cockers.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Couldn't see Osborne leader if remain won,the Guy would have been hated more with leave Con MP's and the wider Tory voting public.

    The EU referendum killed his career ever way Win or lose.
  • Perhaps somebody could buy Haseem Habeeb a plane ticket to NZ. I mean Ben could do with somebody to bowl at in the nets.

    And Alex Hales, Adil Rashid, and Joss Butler.

    Bayliss had the cheek to say that some England players had been a bit brainless. No more so than the selectors, I simmered privately.

    I'd better go to bed. Getting angry.

    Nite all.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 25,253
    edited November 27

    Perhaps somebody could buy Haseem Habeeb a plane ticket to NZ. I mean Ben could do with somebody to bowl at in the nets.

    And Alex Hales, Adil Rashid, and Joss Butler.

    Bayliss had the cheek to say that some England players had been a bit brainless. No more so than the selectors, I simmered privately.

    I'd better go to bed. Getting angry.

    Nite all.
    Adul rashid is a really weird one. One of the best slow bowlers in T20, who has great variety and turns it. I was told though the reason he isn't picked is he can't do the same with red ball that he can with the white.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Couldn't see Osborne leader if remain won,the Guy would have been hated more with leave Con MP's and the wider Tory voting public.

    The EU referendum killed his career ever way Win or lose.
    Had Remain won like Brown Osborne would probably have engineered a stitch up and just got so many Tory MPs behind him, through promise of patronage or threatened political oblivion, he may even have had a coronation for the leadership or just faced a token hardline Leaver like Fox.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    edited November 27
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Couldn't see Osborne leader if remain won,the Guy would have been hated more with leave Con MP's and the wider Tory voting public.

    The EU referendum killed his career ever way Win or lose.
    Had Remain won like Brown Osborne would probably have engineered a stitch up and just got so many Tory MPs behind him, through promise of patronage or threatened political oblivion, he may even have had a coronation for the leadership or just faced a token hardline Leaver like Fox.
    Or it might have gone down to the the final two of Osborne v May and may winning with plenty of tories wanting revenge for Osbornes bull in the EU Referendum ;-)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Couldn't see Osborne leader if remain won,the Guy would have been hated more with leave Con MP's and the wider Tory voting public.

    The EU referendum killed his career ever way Win or lose.
    Had Remain won like Brown Osborne would probably have engineered a stitch up and just got so many Tory MPs behind him, through promise of patronage or threatened political oblivion, he may even have had a coronation for the leadership or just faced a token hardline Leaver like Fox.
    Or it might have gone down to the the final two of Osborne v May and may winning with plenty of tories wanting revenge for Osbornes bull in the EU Referendum ;-)
    If it was not a coronation Osborne may have leaked some of his MPs to Fox to keep May out of the final 2
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 16,291

    Perhaps somebody could buy Haseem Habeeb a plane ticket to NZ. I mean Ben could do with somebody to bowl at in the nets.

    And Alex Hales, Adil Rashid, and Joss Butler.

    Bayliss had the cheek to say that some England players had been a bit brainless. No more so than the selectors, I simmered privately.

    I'd better go to bed. Getting angry.

    Nite all.
    Adul rashid is a really weird one. One of the best slow bowlers in T20, who has great variety and turns it. I was told though the reason he isn't picked is he can't do the same with red ball that he can with the white.
    Rashid got 13 caps - not a single one at home in England.

    Poorly treated by the selectors.
  • tysontyson Posts: 4,106

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.

    I dunno Peter...in this anti politic climate Corbyn's politics and tone appeal with or without Brexit.

    I tell you one thing I prefer Corbyn's optimistic lefty throwback to the 70's than the nihilism of the blind ideological nationalism that pervades Brexit a million times over......
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 1,752
    edited November 27
    @TSE - your new avatar. Any particular reason to change to that today....? (#innocentface)
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 3,937

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    edited November 27
    tyson said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.

    I dunno Peter...in this anti politic climate Corbyn's politics and tone appeal with or without Brexit.

    I tell you one thing I prefer Corbyn's optimistic lefty throwback to the 70's than the nihilism of the blind ideological nationalism that pervades Brexit a million times over......
    The UKIP then Leave vote and the Corbyn vote even the Scottish Yes and SNP votes in 2014 and 2015 are merely products of the same root cause, a populist revolt against uncontrolled immigration, globalisation, austerity and neoliberalism.

    The UK is not alone in that revolt either, it is a feature of much of western politics at the moment.
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 33,339
    @seanjonesqc: Somewhere in the DExEU someone is working on a Venn diagram. Set 1: Things that would "undermine" the negotiations. Set 2: Things that make Brexit look like a bad idea.
  • @TSE - your new avatar. Any particular reason to change to that today....? (#innocentface)

    Just wanted to show off my Monarchist tendencies.

    I love Prince Harry.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    HYUFD said:

    tyson said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.

    I dunno Peter...in this anti politic climate Corbyn's politics and tone appeal with or without Brexit.

    I tell you one thing I prefer Corbyn's optimistic lefty throwback to the 70's than the nihilism of the blind ideological nationalism that pervades Brexit a million times over......
    The UKIP then Leave vote and the Corbyn vote even the Scottish Yes and SNP votes in 2014 and 2015 are merely products of the same root cause, a populist revolt against uncontrolled immigration, globalisation, austerity and neoliberalism.

    The UK is not alone in that revolt either, it is a feature of much of western politics at the moment.
    Spot on.
  • Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Which makes it all the more irritating that they couldn't resolve this in time for The Ashes.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 1,642

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Which therefore begs the obvious question...
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 6,549

    Danny565 said:

    calum said:
    This is the Labour Party that thinks it would be better at negotiating Brexit?

    Okaaaaay.....
    Erm, do you really think not getting the facts right about a water company, is as bad (or as consequential) as not getting the facts right about an imprisoned Briton and landing them a bigger jail sentence?
    Clearly hit a nerve, when you have to throw back Boris Johnson!
    You claimed a Scottish Labour leader's gaffe was a reflection of how bad Labour as a whole would be at negotiating Brexit. If that's the case, then surely a Tory minister's much worse gaffe is also a reflection of how good the Tories are at negotiating Brexit, no?
  • dixiedean said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Which therefore begs the obvious question...
    Does he like pineapple on a pizza?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 6,749
    dixiedean said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Which therefore begs the obvious question...
    The English selectors are Cr@p ?
  • tysontyson Posts: 4,106
    @HYUFD...I completely agree with you and see you as one of the more insightful posters around these parts...

    Probably where we diverge though is that in this climate, I would choose the lefty anti capitalist authoritarianism of Corbyn. It's not my choice...I'm a pretty unreconstructed Blairite to be honest, but I have such a bitter loathing of the narrow minded, lowest common denominator nationalist politics that is central to Brexit and Trump.....
  • dixiedean said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Which therefore begs the obvious question...
    The person making the charging decision at the CPS is clearly an Aussie.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073

    HYUFD said:

    tyson said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    I don't know, had Remain won in 2016 it would likely have been Osborne v Corbyn in 2020, I would not have bet much money on austerity and student debt interest Osborne winning a majority against Corbyn
    Outside of a Brexit-dominated political environment, Corbyn would have little appeal beyond a narrow segment of Labour voters. Within one, anything is possible.

    I dunno Peter...in this anti politic climate Corbyn's politics and tone appeal with or without Brexit.

    I tell you one thing I prefer Corbyn's optimistic lefty throwback to the 70's than the nihilism of the blind ideological nationalism that pervades Brexit a million times over......
    The UKIP then Leave vote and the Corbyn vote even the Scottish Yes and SNP votes in 2014 and 2015 are merely products of the same root cause, a populist revolt against uncontrolled immigration, globalisation, austerity and neoliberalism.

    The UK is not alone in that revolt either, it is a feature of much of western politics at the moment.
    Spot on.
    Yes and it is driven by the working and lower middle class who have seen their wages stagnate for years.
  • Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/thetimes/status/935281468355510273

    Oh goody, the return of the loony left councils.
  • HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Glowing endorsement of Corbynonomics...

    Corbyn becoming PM is 'worse threat to British business than Brexit', says bank

    The prospect of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister is a more serious threat to British business than Brexit, the investment bank Morgan Stanley has warned.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/27/corbyn-becoming-pm-is-worse-threat-to-british-business-than-brexit-says-bank

    Well yes.

    One of the biggest dangers of an unplanned WTO Brexit is that it leads to a Corbyn Premiership.
    I should think a Corbyn Premiership always was and remains an almost inevitable consequence of Brexit. So we get WTO and Venezuela.

    Didn't you vote Leave, Robert? Or did I misunderstand and what you really meant was 'leave the country'?
    Corbyn won the 2016 local elections and led a number of polls even before Brexit.
    Yeah, but the likelihood of him ever getting into No 10 was always remote. Now it's better than an evens chance.
    Better than evens? I highly doubt that!

    If you truly believe that then I'm happy to to be generous and offer you a bet at evens. Let's say £50 and I win if Corbyn is replaced without becoming PM, you win if Corbyn becomes PM. What do you think?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 36,073
    tyson said:

    @HYUFD...I completely agree with you and see you as one of the more insightful posters around these parts...

    Probably where we diverge though is that in this climate, I would choose the lefty anti capitalist authoritarianism of Corbyn. It's not my choice...I'm a pretty unreconstructed Blairite to be honest, but I have such a bitter loathing of the narrow minded, lowest common denominator nationalist politics that is central to Brexit and Trump.....

    Thankyou. We may have more in common than you think, I neither voted Leave nor for Corbyn though yes with populism driving both left and right you take the most palatable option.
  • tysontyson Posts: 4,106
    @Philip Thomson...it is inevitable that Corbyn will be the next PM, unless of course he decides to stand aside.......after US 2016 I'm not betting on anything mind....
  • PongPong Posts: 4,544
    Congratulations to Harry & Meghan.

    Nice to see a tortured soul find his happiness.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 2,780
    Scott_P said:
    By bearded men and women from ethnic minorities? Sounds like some 80s Labour councils?
  • I’ve had courgettes on my pizza in the past and I liked it.

    Paul Hollywood put courgettes on a pizza for his new Channel 4 show, and nobody's okay with that


    "The dirty evil bastard."

    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/great-british-bake-off/news/a844061/paul-hollywood-a-bakers-life-reactions/
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 865

    calum said:
    This is the Labour Party that thinks it would be better at negotiating Brexit?

    Okaaaaay.....
    Um! That Scottish Water is state owned since 2002, is maybe not what many think it is, but actually Anglian Water have been quietly managing the asset for some time. Met one of their senior managers who was quite "interesting" on the subject. Seems that Anglian have had an interest since 2008 (a year after the SNP came to power) but political interests have managed to obscure the English connection for some reason. (PS. Some of the other major assets now owned by the Scottish Government in England are quite interesting as well, but that's another story)
    http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/_assets/media/AWS_Prelims__Final_31_May_2017.pdf
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 865
    Marf! Love the visual pun, but border collies are scottish....
  • OchEye said:

    Marf! Love the visual pun, but border collies are scottish....

    Seems apt for the Ulster-Scots
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 4,979
    I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 16,291

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Interesting given what I would assume would be in his bail conditions.

    Why would there be conditions on his bail?
    I was assuming he had been told he had to remain in the UK.

    Either way I would expect him to have to report to the police station to be charged (with additional bail conditions) or told no charges.

    One of the things we forget about Ben Stokes is that he was born overseas, to foreign parents that can tip bail conditions, which theoretically makes him a higher risk of fleeing.

    My at distance reading of it is that the police put a low bar on the bail conditions which means they don't expect charges to be brought forward.
    Stokes isn’t being charged with anything. He will play in the third test.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 16,291
    Great Newsnight feature on ROI border. 5 people interviewed in a row pushing the ROI case.

    No wonder everyone wants to watch royal engagement coverage.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 8,880

    I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.

    Open warfare in my CLP.

    About to hit SquawkBox
  • I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.

    Open warfare in my CLP.

    About to hit SquawkBox
    SquawkBox - about as reliable news source as Trump's twitter feed.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 8,880

    I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.

    Open warfare in my CLP.

    About to hit SquawkBox
    SquawkBox - about as reliable news source as Trump's twitter feed.
    Progress dirty tricks resulting in AGM being called void will hit SquawkBox Canary and possibly Mirror in days.
  • I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.

    Open warfare in my CLP.

    About to hit SquawkBox
    SquawkBox - about as reliable news source as Trump's twitter feed.
    Progress dirty tricks resulting in AGM being called void will hit SquawkBox Canary and possibly Mirror in days.
    When it in the Mirror, come back to us...SquawkBox is about as reliable and trustworthy as Breitbart discussing Islamic issues.
  • Alistair said:
    I guessed before clicking...Project Veritas,
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 8,880

    I have just seen the block vote in action when it comes to selecting local election candidates.

    And no, I don't mean Momentum.

    Open warfare in my CLP.

    About to hit SquawkBox
    SquawkBox - about as reliable news source as Trump's twitter feed.
    Progress dirty tricks resulting in AGM being called void will hit SquawkBox Canary and possibly Mirror in days.
    When it in the Mirror, come back to us...SquawkBox is about as reliable and trustworthy as Breitbart discussing Islamic issues.
    How many Councillors suspended does it take to get in Mirror. If it's less than 6 watch this space.
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