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  • Re: politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » GE2017 sees a changed political geography with 3 new regions

    This ransomware attack can only be good for Corbyn. After all, his vision of taking Britain back to the 1970s would mean that these attack vectors wouldn't exist.

    UKIPs idea of taking Britain back to the 1950s would be even better, as ARPAnet hadn't even been invented.
  • Re: politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » NEW PB/Polling Matters podcast: Firing the starting gun, Brexi

    It's a statement of fact. You seemed like a nice guy before. Since then you laid into Plato in very personal terms on several occasions, you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources, and now you impugn my charitable motives.

    I've no interest in any further conversation with you.
    Plato laid into me as well, sometimes using similar nasty non-arguments to the one you just have (and worse).

    Perhaps I haven't changed, and you're just not used to your arguments not being robustly challenged?

    "you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources"

    Well, you continually claimed that you were not one of the establishment, and then talk (often the same day) about the figures of the establishment you've talked to. Worse, you use those conversations as 'evidence' for what you're saying.

    "and now you impugn my charitable motives."

    I know you do a lot of good work for charity, and I admire that. But that admiration is slightly lessened with what you've said over the Garden Bridge.
    The Garden Bridge isn't charitable in my view. It's a tool for economic regeneration.
    Lol.

    Was an investigation done into whether the bridge was a better tool of 'economic regeneration' than any other use of the projected >£200 million cost, or was a similar process undergone to the awarding of the contracts?

    As an example, the Millennium Bridge opened in 2000 and cost £18 million.

    Your defence of the project has got increasingly ridiculous, hysterical and nasty.

    Then there's this:
    https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/new-foi-reveals-early-fears-over-escalating-garden-bridge-budget/10019517.article
    Please don't respond to any more of my posts. I have no interest in further dialogue with you.

    I will extend you the same courtesy.
    Nope. If you say something interesting (as you often do) I'd like to respond to you. Please feel free to do the same to me.
  • Re: politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » NEW PB/Polling Matters podcast: Firing the starting gun, Brexi

    It's a statement of fact. You seemed like a nice guy before. Since then you laid into Plato in very personal terms on several occasions, you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources, and now you impugn my charitable motives.

    I've no interest in any further conversation with you.
    Plato laid into me as well, sometimes using similar nasty non-arguments to the one you just have (and worse).

    Perhaps I haven't changed, and you're just not used to your arguments not being robustly challenged?

    "you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources"

    Well, you continually claimed that you were not one of the establishment, and then talk (often the same day) about the figures of the establishment you've talked to. Worse, you use those conversations as 'evidence' for what you're saying.

    "and now you impugn my charitable motives."

    I know you do a lot of good work for charity, and I admire that. But that admiration is slightly lessened with what you've said over the Garden Bridge.
    The Garden Bridge isn't charitable in my view. It's a tool for economic regeneration.
    Lol.

    Was an investigation done into whether the bridge was a better tool of 'economic regeneration' than any other use of the projected >£200 million cost, or was a similar process undergone to the awarding of the contracts?

    As an example, the Millennium Bridge opened in 2000 and cost £18 million.

    Your defence of the project has got increasingly ridiculous, hysterical and nasty.

    Then there's this:
    https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/new-foi-reveals-early-fears-over-escalating-garden-bridge-budget/10019517.article
  • Re: politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » NEW PB/Polling Matters podcast: Firing the starting gun, Brexi

    It's a statement of fact. You seemed like a nice guy before. Since then you laid into Plato in very personal terms on several occasions, you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources, and now you impugn my charitable motives.

    I've no interest in any further conversation with you.
    Plato laid into me as well, sometimes using similar nasty non-arguments to the one you just have (and worse).

    Perhaps I haven't changed, and you're just not used to your arguments not being robustly challenged?

    "you've accused me of showing off when I cite my sources"

    Well, you continually claimed that you were not one of the establishment, and then talk (often the same day) about the figures of the establishment you've talked to. Worse, you use those conversations as 'evidence' for what you're saying.

    "and now you impugn my charitable motives."

    I know you do a lot of good work for charity, and I admire that. But that admiration is slightly lessened with what you've said over the Garden Bridge.
  • Re: politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » NEW PB/Polling Matters podcast: Firing the starting gun, Brexi



    My office is within 50 yards of one end of the Bridge. It would have helped with the economic regeneration of a neglected part of central London. That's all I really care about.

    "Economic regeneration of a neglected part of central London"...is that some sort of joke?
    No.

    The North Bank (wedged between the Strand/Fleet St, Waterloo Bridge and Blackfriars Bridge) is relatively neglected. The Southbank has been very successfully regenerated; there is always a lot of focus on Trafalgar Square, Soho, etc, but in between there's no attention paid.
    And the tens of millions spent on a bridge (and what was it spent on, and who got it) was the best way of helping that area?

    The bridge had no purpose, as the report shows. Saying it would help the locals is just desperate floundering. Such benefits should be low-priority positive side effects of a bridge, not the reason.
    "My office is within 50 yards of one end of the Bridge. It would have helped with the economic regeneration of a neglected part of central London. That's all I really care about." is the most marvellous bit of cognitive dissonance I have seen in recent years. I want nice stuff within 50 yards of my office, and the taxpayer to foot the bill. There are traditions going as far back as we have history for of the rich paying out of their own pockets to beautify civic spaces for the benefit of all. Why, now that the rich are richer than they have ever been, invert the procedure?

    Perhaps the contractors would accept payment in frequent flyer miles or whatever they are.

    It takes a lot to turn me sans-culotte before breakfast, but really...
    The bulk of the money is coming from private sources. Or was before Khan scared away a couple of big donors. The government contribution was (a) a VAT rebate [i.e. foregone tax]; (b) money that was already budgeted to be spent redeveloping Temple tube; and (c) an underwriting which - had Khan not interfered - would have been replaced by private donations

    And I'm not sure I really fancy millions of people a year walking down my street.
    Yes, it's all Khan's fault, obviously. All the critics are wrong, and are to blame for the fact that this glorious piece of architecture - which would surely have become one of the wonders of the world and turned local kids into millionaires overnight - has been cancelled.

    Or alternatively: the project was cancelled because it had no defined purpose, was an over-expensive carbuncle, had been utterly mismanaged, and had some *interesting* approaches to awarding contracts.